With no sign of the political firestorm ending, Trump urges his Justice Department to pursue former President Barack Obama for an alleged, and baseless, scheme to rig the 2016 election. Of the Epstein drama swirling around his presidency, he claimed, “I don’t follow it too much.”

The president gets low marks for his handling of the scandal. But polls suggest other issues are driving the popularity dip.

Here is a timeline of Epstein and Trump’s relationship. Though it is not known when Epstein and Trump first met, Trump told New York magazine in 2002 that he had known Epstein for 15 years, which would date back to the late 1980s. “Terrific guy,” Trump said in the 2002 interview.